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    Axle update:
    As some may have already seen. I picked up 2 14bff and 1 10b front axles for a reasonable price of $100.
    So here's the pros and cons of the purchase. I'll describe the 14b axle A and axle B.

    Axle A has a gov lock carrier in it with 4.10 gears. The gears are no good (teeth chipped off). The pinion has no bearings and just flops around. Good shafts. Drums are locked TIGHT. Shock mounts appear to have been cut off and relocated higher. My guess is they lifted the truck and didn't want to buy the proper length shocks. Dated 1978.

    Axle B has and open diff with 3.21 gears? Would that be for a diesel? Gears appear to be in good shape. But there's alot of bearing shavings on the mag. I believe this is gonna be the pinion snout bearing. No outer leaks. Good shafts. 1 drum froze, 1 drum free. No shock mount or spring modifications. Dated 1979.


    The 10b front is open diff. Unknown gears. Spins freely. And has auto locking hubs. Didn't really look too close at it. Didn't really even care to bring it home. But I'll sell it and get my money back.

    The guy with the d44 may have a set of good 4.10 gears for me. He's gonna look tomorrow. Sounds like he want the 3.21 that's in axle B.
    The plan is to pull the gov lock out and open it up and inspect it. Put gears on it and install it in axle B. Since its out of an 80 3/4 ton the shock mounts and spring pads shouldn't need any relocating?

    Hit me up with any thoughts, inputs, or gear offers.

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    3.21 gears were available on 2WD models with a 454 (usually Suburabans)

    as for the froze drum, just loosen the brakes on that side by rotating the self-adjuster until they unlock.
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    Just saw this, pretty good deal on those Neil. Maybe shoot some PB Blaster up in that drum to help free things up also.
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    So here's an update. Been working on the axles over the past couple days. I opened up the Gov and cleaned all the caked on gunk. It took every bit of 5 cans of brake clean and half my brain cells. Note to self, open a window or the garage door next time.

    2 for $7 oreillys special on brakleen.

    Didn't take any pics of the reassembly as I was flying pretty high from the fumes. But I did get one of it cleaned and assembled.
    Today I finished gutting the housing spaying it out with my last can of cleaner. My buddy at work is removing the pinion from the tail housing and bearings for me.

    Next step is to clean up the shafts and start working on the drums.

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    Between rotten gear oil and brake cleaner I bet you are pretty nauseous...

    So you got the POR15 ready to slap on that axle housing after you get it good and clean?

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    So I need some input from you guys. Here's my situation.

    Tires-
    If I run the smaller drums, then I can run a 15" wheel. That will prevent me from having to buy new tires. But it would also prevent me from switching to rear disc without switching wheels again. I have no desire to grind the caliper to fit the 15" wheels. The 15s will also mean I'll be running my 32" BFG. Which leads me to my next decision.

    Gears-
    With my 32s the 3.73 gears feel right. Runs a pretty decent low rpm. The D44 has 4.10's in it and the 14b currently has no gears in it. The 4.10 and 3.73 gears for the 14b will cost me the same, about $80 used from fleabay. The 3.73 gears for the D44 I can get off CL right now for $50. I know there's a carrier break for the D44. He claims they're 3.73 HD. I assume he means thick. I would have to verify that.

    So, should I stick with the 4.10 gearing in anticipation for larger tires? (33s would prob be all I go) Should I go ahead and go to 16" wheels and buy 33s for them? How annoying will it be to run the 4.10 on 32x15? Ultimately that's the cheapest route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GobblerK5 View Post
    Between rotten gear oil and brake cleaner I bet you are pretty nauseous...

    So you got the POR15 ready to slap on that axle housing after you get it good and clean?

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    I'm definitely planning on wasting a couple wire wheels on it. Prob won't fork out the money for the POR15. I've taken a liking to the industrial rattle can I get from Lowe's. It's held up pretty good on my current axle.

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    4.10 if you're going bigger than the 33s

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    You've got a pretty large job in front of you Xray. Making some nice progress.
    We're working on it...


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    You can run 15" wheels without grinding on a 14 bolt disc conversion.

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